Famcraft
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: RubensCherub on September 16, 2014, 01:31:38 PM
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Microsoft is buying Mojang, and we are 100% okay with this. This has no immediate impact on Famcraft, and we would rather not see it discussed on the server at all. If you feel you must discuss it, please keep it in this thread.
Some things to keep in mind:
2.5 billion dollars is a lot of money. That's more money than some entire countries have! Microsoft would not want to lose that sort of money by changing the core of what makes Minecraft so magical.
Official channels have stated that as of right now, there's no plans whatsoever to change Minecraft's formula for success. This means that all supported systems (Windows/Linux/Mac, Android/iOS, Xbox/PlayStation, etc) will continue as they always have.
Modding, both server-side and client-side, has always been a part of Minecraft and Microsoft already understands this. There are currently no plans to put an end to modding, either. Modding will continue to stay the same as it has been.
The core development team for Minecraft has not changed, they are still hard at work on Minecraft. If you are concerned about the people who are leaving Mojang, they either have no been actively involved in the development of Minecraft in a long time, or have not been involved at all.
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i kinda like this happening, the reason i think this is because it has taken mojang 1year to release 1 update but if microsoft gets control they have more programmers and more money to develop the game. so in my opinion more updates adds up to better minecraft, the only bad thing is if they try to make minecraft well... not minecraft by adding circles ETC but i doubt this will happen
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if they try to make minecraft well... not minecraft by adding circles ETC but i doubt this will happen
agreed. :D
But the reason why it took a year is because of new blocks etc..
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i could load up photoshop and make my own block or tool in 5mins :P, the longest thing is setting the spawning of the block ETC, the hardest thing in that update i would say was the water dungeons and the new mobs.
hopefully microsoft does not mess this up i have high hopes lol
~ JrMod Puggy
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I'm sort of worried. The only thing that gives me a bit of insurance is how much Microsoft is investing in the game.
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Changes to the way the game client handles blocks and displaying the game world is partially what took a big chunk of time.
More developers doesn't always mean faster development times, however... Microsoft does have practically infinite resources to throw at Minecraft should they wish to. Overall, I think this will end up improving things.
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In my opinion we shouldn't be mad because of how much notch and mojang has done. I know if I had that position I would be very stressed and busy. I'm excited to see what ideas Microsoft has.
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I dont think its a good or bad thing for MC.
I DO wonder about the fact 2.5 billion, how is this gonne pay back for Microsoft? After all, they wont invest this money into it of they only lose money on it.
My guess will be that the main chunk will be earned back with merchandise and the MC movie and such, but i wonder of it will be enough to justify the investment microsoft did.
I really really hope they are not going to release DLC packs in the future that require micro-payments.
But for now its only speculation, i guess its best to just wait and see what will happen :)
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Well, I think that minecraft will be fine. 2.5Billion dollars?? No company would waste that much money to ruin a game, its to risky. Plus minecraft is on the top list of games across many platforms. (This isn't 100% true) But some people think Microsoft wanted mojang because the technology behind it was one of the best there is :o
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Mojang has already made hundreds of millions of dollars off of Minecraft. If Minecraft continues to grow at its current pace, it would not surprise me if Microsoft earned its money back in less than 5 years.
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Mojang has already made hundreds of millions of dollars off of Minecraft. If Minecraft continues to grow at its current pace, it would not surprise me if Microsoft earned its money back in less than 5 years.
Its likely. But it might not happen if Microsoft makes bad changes to the game.
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I've been playing on computers since Windows 3.11. I've seen MS buy many many companies over the years and although they may not have "ruined" the software they acquired, they did change every last thing about them over time. Some stuff, they just did away with because of the competition while using parts of the trashed software in their own.
Trust me, they didn't pay 2.5 billion for Minecraft with the hopes of making it back with Minecraft. That paid that much for the game engine technology to use in other games. It will be a family of games that make the money back for them using Mojang's game engine.
Don't forget, they didn't just buy Minecraft. They bought Mojang and all of their games.
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Hey chip, I learned how to run computers on an Atari 800. I think I might have you beat :)
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What happens if Microsoft makes a very bad change to the game in the future and no one likes it and it add bad things. Will we still have to update famcraft or can we stay at the update we think would be best?
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What happens if Microsoft makes a very bad change to the game in the future and no one likes it and it add bad things. Will we still have to update famcraft or can we stay at the update we think would be best?
We'd be able to stay on the version that suits everyone best, if that were to happen. But like I said, given the amount of resources that are involved, I don't think that will be an issue.
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Wait is it true that MS wants Mojang to doubledown on Mobile versions? (Stated from the video, Microsoft doesn't want Minecraft on Andriod stores or something like that, I watched many videos about it from many different people who are close with Microsoft)
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I really really hope they are not going to release DLC packs in the future that require micro-payments.
But for now its only speculation, i guess its best to just wait and see what will happen :)
Yeah..
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I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft had decided to make Minecraft a Subscriber only to play online, wouldn't be surprised to see them add Windows 8 and later on Windows 9 Mechanics.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both android and Sony lose support for any more updates and I would not be surprised to see DLC with micro-transactions either. At the moment though all we can do is wait and watch to see what Microsoft is going to do with what they bought and that is what I'm doing.
Edit: So I read the post on Mojangs website about how microsoft had bought them this is what I saw in the article.
"There’s no reason for the development, sales, and support of the PC/Mac, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4, Vita, iOS, and Android versions of Minecraft to stop. Of course, Microsoft can’t make decisions for other companies or predict the choices that they might make in the future."
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I, for one, would be very surprised if any of that happened, as it would not be in their best interest to do any of those.
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You would be surprised to see Minecraft with Windows 8/9 Mechanics? :P
Yeah I understand, not a lot of people would like it, heck I would be upset if Minecraft became Subscriber only.
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No kidding. Honestly if that would ever happen then i think that would be the one only time i actually step up my decoding skills to get past microsoft. naw naw jk but yeah I would prob be in tears the nanosecond the article came out if it ever does. ._.
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I would be upset if Microsoft charged you to change your skin and charged you for a Texture/Resource pack.
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^ :-X
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I dont really care if Microsoft bought Mojang
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I really really hope they are not going to release DLC packs in the future that require micro-payments.
My friend tagged Microsoft in one of his posts and this is what the post said: "Will pay @Microsoft &/or @MicrosoftSupport 2$ for Optifine for 1.8"
Honestly, I had to break into his twitter account to delete that post then later I tagged him and said "Shhh Microsoft cant learn dat dude." >_>
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LOL
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If Microsoft made us pay for DLC Areas, gamemodes, or whatever, I would honestly be really mad about it.
Like, if you bought the game Minecraft, you should be able to access everything, no off limits biomes, no unusable items. Everything should be unlocked.
Restricting features with "DLC" is honestly stupid. Yes, it does generate more money for the people making the game, but I really dislike it.
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Plus it would be extremely unfair if they changed something that we already payed for.
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Change is a part of video games. But still, what if we had to pay another fee to unlock the new update of Minecraft, so you were stuck in 1.8?
I'd hate to see that happen.
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It wont Mickey. Even though Im sorta against MC buying Microsoft, they wouldn't waste 2.5million just to ruin it. Like someone said, my only insurance MC wont destroy it is the 2.5million$ part.
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All this doesn't change the fact that I don't trust Microsoft anywhere near as far as I could throw them. They lost me with the horrible UI in Windows 8/8.1.
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It wont Mickey. Even though Im sorta against MC buying Microsoft, they wouldn't waste 2.5million just to ruin it. Like someone said, my only insurance MC wont destroy it is the 2.5million$ part.
You mean Microsoft buying MC/Mojang? xP
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I agree with Sky, Microsoft wouldn't buy Mojang just to decrease the amount of players, and their experience by making it so that you have to pay for say, to access a new update. That would make no sense.
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I third that ^ but I'm guessing there's gonna be some big changes Maybe for the good? :o
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I've been playing on computers since Windows 3.11. I've seen MS buy many many companies over the years and although they may not have "ruined" the software they acquired, they did change every last thing about them over time. Some stuff, they just did away with because of the competition while using parts of the trashed software in their own.
Trust me, they didn't pay 2.5 billion for Minecraft with the hopes of making it back with Minecraft. That paid that much for the game engine technology to use in other games. It will be a family of games that make the money back for them using Mojang's game engine.
Don't forget, they didn't just buy Minecraft. They bought Mojang and all of their games.
Remember what Chip said. It may not necessarily be about Minecraft at all except for the technology behind it.
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I agree with Sky, Microsoft wouldn't buy Mojang just to decrease the amount of players, and their experience by making it so that you have to pay for say, to access a new update. That would make no sense.
Explain that to a lot of game developers :/
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lel well "c" is next to "d" so theres no guarantee im talking about Microsoft oor Minecraft :P (no jk I meant Microsoft, thanks for pointing out my spelling error (or something) XD)
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Inb4 p2win or p2play. Sorry guys, notorious Microsoft hater here. It's all about revenue with these guys. I'm holding out hope but I'm not confident in their ability to keep the dream alive. Besides. MC has already lost it's sparkle to a lot of people *Cough*me*cough*
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Honestly, i don't think the game will ever be pay-to-play like some of the bigger MMO's. I CAN see them making some kind of special DLC (Think the Aether or skylands kind of things) but i think there will still be updates to the game happening that adds new things for us. (Maybe they'll continue listening to the players, and add in furniture. We're getting close with the new fences & doors, and colored glass!)
I can also see them making new player models, like the deadmau5 skin (he has the custom head shape with the mickey-mouse-like ears). I can see them adding things like teddy bear ears, animal tails, cat ears, etc -- and then making them a micro-buy. (Pay $5 to have a custom body shape/new head!).
I can DEFINITELY see them offering some kind of personal server deal though. Instead of trying to find someone to host your server, you could pay a monthly package & have them host your server for you. (the more slots you want, the more it'll cost, just like normal).
No one has ever profited from changing a game from f2p, to p2p. the other way around? certainly. But i don't see them charging us a monthly fee to play a game that's so widely used -- even in schools.
I don't doubt one bit that they'll find a way to nickel & dime us for content, that's what businesses do (especially gaming ones), but i think they'd be stupid to try and charge us for things we use so often like skin-changing, online access, or updates. <3
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Honestly, i don't think the game will ever be pay-to-play like some of the bigger MMO's. I CAN see them making some kind of special DLC (Think the Aether or skylands kind of things) but i think there will still be updates to the game happening that adds new things for us. (Maybe they'll continue listening to the players, and add in furniture. We're getting close with the new fences & doors, and colored glass!)
I can also see them making new player models, like the deadmau5 skin (he has the custom head shape with the mickey-mouse-like ears). I can see them adding things like teddy bear ears, animal tails, cat ears, etc -- and then making them a micro-buy. (Pay $5 to have a custom body shape/new head!).
I can DEFINITELY see them offering some kind of personal server deal though. Instead of trying to find someone to host your server, you could pay a monthly package & have them host your server for you. (the more slots you want, the more it'll cost, just like normal).
No one has ever profited from changing a game from f2p, to p2p. the other way around? certainly. But i don't see them charging us a monthly fee to play a game that's so widely used -- even in schools.
I don't doubt one bit that they'll find a way to nickel & dime us for content, that's what businesses do (especially gaming ones), but i think they'd be stupid to try and charge us for things we use so often like skin-changing, online access, or updates. <3
True, there is a lot of potential changes that can occur. I wouldn't like to have to pay 5$ to get a changed player model. Nor would my parents allow me to likely get it. I think there is a lot of truth to the last sentence, Microsoft seems likely to be a company that will make us do these things, such as, simply paying to get the ability to change your skin (like a one time 1$ fee). I heavily doubt they would charge for online access, as Multiplayer and servers is a huge income for Minecraft. Most players don't like just playing by themselves in Singleplayer. I understand that mods can change how much fun it is, but I really don't enjoy playing Singleplayer opposed to playing Multiplayer with my friends, and checking out some awesome things that other players have done. Just playing with some friends, working towards some goals while having a ton of fun, its just a lot greater of an experience. Btw, the last time I played survival was... June 10th. XD.
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True, there is a lot of potential changes that can occur. I wouldn't like to have to pay 5$ to get a changed player model. Nor would my parents allow me to likely get it. I think there is a lot of truth to the last sentence, Microsoft seems likely to be a company that will make us do these things, such as, simply paying to get the ability to change your skin (like a one time 1$ fee). I heavily doubt they would charge for online access, as Multiplayer and servers is a huge income for Minecraft. Most players don't like just playing by themselves in Singleplayer. I understand that mods can change how much fun it is, but I really don't enjoy playing Singleplayer opposed to playing Multiplayer with my friends, and checking out some awesome things that other players have done. Just playing with some friends, working towards some goals while having a ton of fun, its just a lot greater of an experience. Btw, the last time I played survival was... June 10th. XD.
Heh heh. Before I joined FamCraft, I had been playing Singleplayer for over a year and a half. I haven't really gone back to playing Singleplayer since then (which was at the end of September 2013). I started a couple Singleplayer Survival games when 1.8 purely for testing purposes (so, I don't really count those as going back to Singleplayer), so it's been nearly a year and a month since I've played Singleplayer.
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I played single player for 3/4 of a year creative mode only :P .
When Lemmy showed me multiplayer servers I was amazed. Famcraft was my first server.
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I play single player to test out a friends world or just see what colors are being used in a pixel art
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as long as dinnerbone remains one of the idea-getters and Jeb stays as main programmer, i think it will be alright.
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Ugh, why did Mojang have to sell to Microsoft. Everything is changing :P
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I still have strong doubts about it, Think about what Microsoft has done wrong in the past. If they hadn't messed up a lot, I would be hype for this.
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They are keeping most of the mojang team, so I doubt anything would change to far from mojangs vision. If anything, Microsoft would be opening up more doors to possibilities with their resources and the mojang team. I personally see a bright future, or at least hope for one :D
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I'm not sure about this, but i heard that Notch is no longer on the team for Minecraft... is this true? I hope not! D:
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I'm not sure about this, but i heard that Notch is no longer on the team for Minecraft... is this true? I hope not! D:
Notch did choose to leave Mojang when this happened, yes. That's actually how Microsoft bought it, Notch and two other high-profile people in Mojang were wanting to leave the company, and Microsoft offered them that money for their "share" of the company once they left.
However, Notch has not worked on Minecraft itself in many years. Not too long after Jeb was made project leader for Minecraft, Notch started working on other games for the company. So the core Minecraft developers were not changed at all when the acquisition happened, and even today, many months after all of this originally happened, the same people are all still working on Minecraft.
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while microsoft may be known for ruining many great game companies which they have purchased over the years (such as the company Rare) they have had plenty of time to learn from their mistakes.
if anything, it is my belief that Microsoft will eventually release a minecraft 2, that way they keep the success of minecraft secured, but also open themselves to make more money from a new title.
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I'm not sure about this, but i heard that Notch is no longer on the team for Minecraft... is this true? I hope not! D:
Notch did choose to leave Mojang when this happened, yes. That's actually how Microsoft bought it, Notch and two other high-profile people in Mojang were wanting to leave the company, and Microsoft offered them that money for their "share" of the company once they left.
However, Notch has not worked on Minecraft itself in many years. Not too long after Jeb was made project leader for Minecraft, Notch started working on other games for the company. So the core Minecraft developers were not changed at all when the acquisition happened, and even today, many months after all of this originally happened, the same people are all still working on Minecraft.
:o i though that he just left minecraft not mojang if thats what ur implying. do you mean he left mojang cuz of microsoft or he left before? im cunfuzed :P